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Member Projects => Lou's Projects => Topic started by: lastvautour on September 20, 2008, 02:10:43 PM

Title: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale. . . . . . . (Completed 04 Oct 08)
Post by: lastvautour on September 20, 2008, 02:10:43 PM
The space race begins with my copying Garet's entry of the Bristol Ascender. The fuselage/wings (blended wing body) is blocked as well as the vertical fin.
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Who will reach the outer limits first? Garet it's your move!!!!

Lou
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: Oceaneer99 on September 21, 2008, 07:21:03 AM
Drat! You've nearly caught up  ;).  I've been sidelined with some emergency repairs to our house's balcony, which has apparently spent the last dozen years rotting.  I would much rather have been in the workshop than at the top of a ladder in the rain with a pry bar and saw!

It is interesting to see how everyone has their own techniques.  It looks like you carved the wing down from a thick blank, leaving the fuselage at the full height of the blank, plus some extra glued on to form the top of the fuselage.

I'll be sure to send my engine order to a different company than the one that made the torpedo tubes for my PT-9 (they finally arrived!).  [for those who haven't been following this, the torpedo tubes have been an long-running joke in this forum.  I took a very long time to make them, even though the rest of the boat was nearly done]

Garet
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on September 21, 2008, 01:53:33 PM
The rocket engine and turbojets arrived this morning as well as the vertical fin. You on the other hand need new contractor. Using the drawings gives you quite a different model than what the computer animated pictures give you. To that end as I complete the Ascender Mk I, I have started the Mk II which will be the highly contoured computer graphic I found in the flickr site I sent you. The Mk II has a low priority so don't hold your breath. I should have pictures latter today.
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on September 21, 2008, 08:20:05 PM
Pictures as promissed.
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I am not satisfied with the results.
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: Oceaneer99 on September 22, 2008, 08:08:10 AM
Lou,

The contractor was worried that they'd buy the engines overseas, so they ran the machinery late into the night.  When I ran out of 8, 10, and 12-penny nails while working on the balcony repair this afternoon, I realized it must be time to stop for the day, which gave me time to print out some patterns for the Ascender's engines.

The rocket nozzle needs some touch-up and is still attached to the rest of the dowel.  I turned it on a drill press.  It's not as good as a lathe, but I did make a fairly reasonable shape.  I drilled out the center and carved it out to thin the wall.  I used my old trick of soaking the end-grain with superglue when the wall gets to be 1 mm or so.

I cut the engine nacelles from a single block of basswood.  After I squared up the block, I drew reference lines and then drilled out the intakes and exhausts using a drill press.  Then I cut out the parts on a scroll saw.  Cutting the second view was a bit tricky, since there was a stack of the two nacelles and the waste from the first view. I actually managed to score my thumbnail with the blade at one point.  I'll need to carve them round yet.

I also turned a spinner for my I-16.  It somehow ended up with a lump on one side, so I glued it to a piece of wood with white glue so that I can get it perfectly round using sandpaper.  Once that is done, I'll soak the piece off with a few drops of water.

Garet
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on September 22, 2008, 11:53:51 AM
I don't have a lathe either so my round is so so round. Looking forward to some pictures.

Lou
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: R.F.Bennett on September 22, 2008, 03:30:56 PM
You Guy's and your contractors!  :D
I do everything "in house" now. That way I can be guaranteed that my parts will be way over budget, of the lowest quality and most importantly, finished sometime in the future . . . Maybe.  ::)  :-[  :P  :-*
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on September 22, 2008, 07:54:05 PM
Contractors will promiss everything to get the contract then !!!!!!!!!. Free enterprise is great.
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: Oceaneer99 on September 24, 2008, 12:20:06 AM
I found out my contractor was sub-contracting to me!
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on September 24, 2008, 01:08:39 PM
Ah yes, free enterprise is not necessarily free. I placed my ascender in the paint shop this morning for its first coat of primer. I will probably start the white paint job this afternoon. I also made the undercarriage but still need to make the doors for it. I previously planed some baseboards down to 1/64" thickness that should do well for this.
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on September 25, 2008, 12:25:13 AM
Landing gear appears to be to small, but I followed the drawings. Regardless, work is progressing along.
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The MK II Ascender is still on hold pending signing of work contracts. I was thinking of running a cook-off using the sub-orbital ship as a model of choice. Any personnal design as long as it would fit the sub-orbital catagory. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on October 01, 2008, 03:55:20 PM
The association of Bristol Spaceplanes Limited (BS) and Bombardier Aerospace (BA) will produce the Ascender Mk III as a joint venture with flight testing taking place in northern Canada. The Mk III is basically a Mk II wing platform with near vertical winglets and modified engines. The fuselage/wing combination will be built BA  and the engines subcontracted out of BS. Pictures will follow shortly.

Note. Mk I is currently in the paint shop having its bottom fuselage/wing heat shield painted black.
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: Rafael on October 01, 2008, 08:02:30 PM
Good-looking, elegant spaceplane. The Jet engines are very well shaped. How did you manage to get that shape?

Rafa
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on October 02, 2008, 12:32:33 PM
Thank Rafa. Th engine are first shaped from a block. I don't have a picture but Garet does on his Ascender project board. http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/SMF/index.php?topic=58.0 Page two contains some nice photos of blocked engines. The remainder is to carve slowly until you get the desired shape.

Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on October 02, 2008, 12:44:39 PM
Mk I with Mk II on the right. The Mk II has since been modified by Bombardier to reflect the Mk III configuration and a copy of a photo will be placed in the Fictional Cook-Up album when completed.
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Two additonal pictures can be viewed in the http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=171 album

I anticipate a Mk I launch within a short period of time. The only thing remaining is the decal coating that is drying as I type.
How far from the launch are you Garet?
Lou
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: Oceaneer99 on October 02, 2008, 04:39:30 PM
Lou, nice finish on the Ascender.  I have one engine carved round and need to do the same with the other.  I did some putty work on the fuselage and need to sand that.

I was distracted a bit finishing up other projects, such as the Tutor and the I-16.  Oh, wait, it's time for the October 1 ping! And I finally got my balcony put back together, with some weathersealing tape over the top of the short walls just in time for the rain that starts up again today.  I'll need to get some metal flashing on for the winter, and I'll probably wait till spring to attach the railing. My son is disappointed that we didn't get his kayak put together before the rains started up, but he helped me with the balcony and so knows what a chore it was.  We should be able to finish out his kayak in short order, though.
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on October 03, 2008, 12:43:02 PM
The Ascender is ready for roll out. To do it justice I searched and found a 1/72 tow tractor with tow bar and driver. I will finish those off sometime today and send out photo by mid day tomorrow. I have darts tonight.

Slightly off topic is a company called GS. According to questionable sources, this company is requesting royalties for anyone using their logo, even if it is not for resale. Hobbyist like me would be in trouble for reproducing without permission. I figure if it is my basement, let them come. What's your opinion Garet?

Loo
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on October 04, 2008, 08:10:49 PM
Roll out begins. Cue A Space Odyssey 2001 theme music.
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Could not find anything else on line about the GS company and their refusal to allow free use of their logo. Garet will vist me behind bars?? I Hope!!
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Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: Oceaneer99 on October 04, 2008, 10:38:04 PM
For a similar story, see "Pentagon versus Hobby Shops":

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/10/pentagon-vs-hob.html

Not sure what the latest is.
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale
Post by: lastvautour on October 05, 2008, 01:35:54 PM
The Bristol Ascender has left the hangar facility and awaits flight testing. Logo issues have yet to be resolved with GS, but I am sure that an agreement can be reached before flight time. Garet, I heard that GS is based in Seattle, so would negotiate for me to use their logo if I give them full credit?
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A fun project to say the least, thanks to Garet's initiative to build the first Ascender and to share his drawings and experience.

Lou
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale. . . . . . . (Completed 04 Oct 08)
Post by: Oceaneer99 on October 06, 2008, 04:14:25 PM
Ha, ha!  I'm still cleaning the coffee up that I just laughed over the keyboard.  I didn't see that one coming, Lou.  I spoke with GS, and they are thrilled with your model and ask if they can print out a photo of the image to put up in their workshop.  ;)

She really came out nice; what an inspiration to actually finish my Ascender!

Garet
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale. . . . . . . (Completed 04 Oct 08)
Post by: lastvautour on October 06, 2008, 04:21:44 PM
Nice to see you enjoyed the scenario. You were the inspiration for my Ascender(s).  Hope to see your at the launch pad shortly.

Lou
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale. . . . . . . (Completed 04 Oct 08)
Post by: R.F.Bennett on October 06, 2008, 10:04:55 PM
Be sure and drop them our Site address and let them know we are open to corporate sponsorship too...  ;D
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale. . . . . . . (Completed 04 Oct 08)
Post by: 1.JaVA_LGorrit on October 07, 2008, 10:26:39 AM
Wow nice one.
Looks really good.

;D
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale. . . . . . . (Completed 04 Oct 08)
Post by: lastvautour on April 10, 2022, 11:14:22 PM
I somehow forgot to post photos of my Ascender Mk III. Better late than none.

Lou

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Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale. . . . . . . (Completed 04 Oct 08)
Post by: Boomerang on April 15, 2022, 10:09:34 PM

Excellent model.

Gordon
Title: Re: Bristol Ascender 1/72 Scale. . . . . . . (Completed 04 Oct 08)
Post by: lastvautour on April 16, 2022, 10:08:23 AM
Thank you Gordon.

Lou