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Title: WWII ID + Models Vol I.......................................(Closed April 2011)
Post by: lastvautour on July 12, 2010, 02:50:53 PM
A continuance of 1/72 scale WWII ID models with a + for the addition of what I hope will be colourful paint schemes. I have chosen the P51 and P47 as a start, Each will have an "ID Model" level of detail and will be painted and have decals affixed. I may refurbish the first two ID model, Spit and P-39, to join the P-51 and P-47.
These P-51 photo were previously posted on the ping thread, but will be added again to complete this article.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF1884.JPG)
The P-51 has three main parts only and and additional tail/rudder plug to allow placement of the horizontal plane. The exhaust manifolds are a 7 piece affair with individual exhaust pipe fitted to a base. The guns are individually placed in a "V" depression in the wing's leading edges and affixed with super glue.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF1914.JPG)
The P-47 is built in a similar fashion with three main components but the addition of two plugs, namely the tail and underwing area.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: cliff strachan on July 12, 2010, 03:49:33 PM
Very nice models. Lou.

Cliff.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on July 16, 2010, 10:29:30 AM
Thank you Cliff. The Mustang is slightly ahead in completion having done the final sanding and painting has started. The T-Bolt has the wing done, but the fuselage still needs final filling and sanding.
Although it is hard to see in the photo, the wings on the T-bolt are almost glass-like in finish while the fuselage has lots of wood grain left.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF1969.JPG)
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/DSCF1972.JPG)
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on July 18, 2010, 06:50:22 PM
The marking are those of a Mustang assigned to the Experimental and Proving Establishment while based at Uplands Air Base in Ottawa, Ontario during June 1951. Note the roundels have no white. This was a very short lived scheme. The Silver finish is rattle can and Model Master Acrylic paints for the details.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Mustang_Mk_IV.JPG)(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Mustang_multi.JPG)

The Thunderbolt on the other hand needed some adjustment to the rear tail plane location. It was mounted too low, hence cut, glue and shape to the new configuration. Painting should progress shortly.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2002.JPG)(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2003.JPG)
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2038.JPG)http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4543
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on August 01, 2010, 03:00:32 PM
The Thunderbolt is finished or so I thought. I was brought to my attention that the right wing decal was incorrect for this plane. They were right and I will change it later.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2185.JPG)(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2189.JPG)
More to come.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on August 15, 2010, 02:42:31 PM
Another iron in the fire so so speak. I have started a P-47 Bubble top in 1/72 to go with the other two WWII ID +.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on September 05, 2010, 02:39:06 PM
The completed P-47 Bubble Top in Nationalist China markings. As per the others, contrsuction is clear pine with hime made decals.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Bubble_P-47_Multi_2.JPG)(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/Bubble_P-47_Multi_1.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4607
Please note the decals on the Razorback P-47 are scaled better to the 1/72 model.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on September 13, 2010, 06:23:42 PM
Inspired by Dave this time, here is my completed Douglas SBD Dauntless recognition model following the official plans in the gallery. EXCEPTION The gallery drawing did not show the canopy framing on the construction drawings but did have them on the small 3 view so I figure I would be safe if I did them.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2477.JPG)(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2482.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4621

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on September 30, 2010, 04:35:32 PM
Not willing to leave well enough alone, I converted the Recognition Dauntless to a WWII ID + model with WWII Royal New Zealand marking.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Dauntless_001.JPG)

This brings my ID + Squadron to four models with lots more to come.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2535.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4634
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on October 13, 2010, 07:38:37 PM
Another WWII ID + bird is ready for some final sanding and then to the paint shop for some RCAF 400 Squadron camouflage. The cannon like protrusions will not stay. I placed them there to keep the machine gun holes open during construction.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2754.JPG)
One of these fine days I may try to make some undercarriage for these and pose them on their gear.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on October 24, 2010, 02:27:38 AM
A new member to the WWII ID + squadron. The Mustang Mk 1.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF2859.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4660
More photos at http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/SMF/index.php?topic=104.60
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on November 12, 2010, 06:38:14 PM
Latest addition is a Spitfire Mk VB in the colours of RCAF Squadron 412 circa 1941. Made as part of a group build with Peter. Check it out at http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/SMF/index.php?topic=635.0

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_ID_2B_Squadron_Nov_2010.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4804

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 06, 2011, 04:54:20 PM
Two new models are on the bench for 2011. The Texan/Harvard was inspired by Dave and the Corsair is one I want to do for quite a while but was reluctant due to the wing shape. I chose to make the inverted gull wing in one piece rather than try to align four pieces to the fuselage. Both are 1/72. The Harvard uses the WWII recognition plans from SMM but the Corsair uses plans I found on line for a later Mk V version with squared off wing tips. All pieces are made from scrap pieces of pine left over from other projects.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: Jim on January 07, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
Beautiful work, Lou. I envy your modelling skills...

jim
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: dave_t on January 07, 2011, 04:32:43 PM
I like the one piece Corsair wing.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 07, 2011, 05:25:36 PM
Thanks. I found it easier to make a one piece wing.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: dave_t on January 09, 2011, 02:31:48 PM
Lou,
   Almost finished with the SNJ. I still need to scribe the lines, make a spinner and do the final painting...
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 09, 2011, 03:21:50 PM
Turned out great Dave. I am wrestling with the wing joint bead. I ran out of super glue so I attached the bead with regular white glue and used cloths pins to hold it in place. Several other attempts failed when I tried to wrap around the leading edge of the wing. This time I thinned the wood down for more flexibility. Super glue works faster and hold better when bending wood.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: dave_t on January 09, 2011, 03:45:18 PM
I guess that is why they recommend paper. I found that card stock works fine, as long as it gets a coat of primer before being sanded.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 09, 2011, 03:53:21 PM
That will be my next approach if the wood bead does not work.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 12, 2011, 05:07:17 PM
Paper bead works better than wooden one. Here we have rough sanding and primer.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: dave_t on January 12, 2011, 06:02:14 PM
I was hesitant about using paper or card, but it worked out fine.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: Oceaneer99 on January 12, 2011, 08:35:26 PM
I've used cardstock here and there for similar details.  I like to soak it in thin CA (superglue), usually after its attached to the model.  The superglue keeps it from fuzzing.

Garet
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 13, 2011, 04:20:02 PM
The Corsair is made up of a one piece wing, a fuselage, and a vertical and horizontal tail plane. The wing root intakes are scraps added to thicken the wing at that point. If I had put a bit of thought, i could have carved them from the wing block. The F4U is now in the paint shop getting primed.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 19, 2011, 09:12:37 PM
The Yellow Peril as she is known in Canada has been completed.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 19, 2011, 09:17:36 PM
I love these 1/72 scale ID + models. To think that prior to this past year I had not even attempted to do one. Thank you Dave for show me the way.

The Harvard was manufactured in Canada by the "Canada Car and Foundry Company".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Car_and_Foundry

Lou
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF3737.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=5003
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: dave_t on January 19, 2011, 10:50:59 PM
The Harvard looks good Lou. The ID plans are not as bad as I used to think they were a couple of years ago. It took me some time to adjust to the government way of doing things. It is still tempting to modify certain details along the way, but if you look at the last drawings (series G) they really got into smaller details, like the very complicated Ju-52.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 19, 2011, 11:04:42 PM
The ID plans do give you a starting point. In this case all I added were the exhaust pipe, the radio mast and direction finder football in addition to deleting the bottom fuselage scoop. Everything else is as per the drawings.

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 20, 2011, 09:02:59 PM
Moving right along.
The decals are drying again since i messed up the first batch. The model will represent an aircraft flown by a Canadian pilot off the deck of HMS Formidable late spring 1945. These naval aviators flew British Corsairs. Only two Victoria Crosses were awarded to Royal Navy pilots and one of those was Hammy Grey, a Canadian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hampton_Gray
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: cliff strachan on January 21, 2011, 12:36:46 AM
A very interesting account of R. Grey V.C. Thanks Lou.
Cliff.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on January 24, 2011, 02:05:25 PM
The Corsair is done in Fleet Air Arm(FAA) colours circa 1945 and flown by a Canadian pilot Lt Richardson.  There were two colour schemes for the FAA pacific fleet Corsairs. One was gloss blue and per the American scheme and the other was dark slate and dark sea grey with sky bottom as per my model.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF3786.JPG)
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on February 15, 2011, 05:23:42 PM
Latest addition is the P-40E using SMM plans.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF4116.JPG)
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF4128.JPG)
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on March 19, 2011, 07:14:07 PM
And the Squadron grows with the addition of the P-38 Lockheed Lightning. The Lightning is a bit different having to ensure great care align the booms to make the project look appropriate. I Used Krylon and Tamiya paints and my own decal made from Testor decal film.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_P-38_Photo_w-squadron.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=5505
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: Mark Braunlich on April 05, 2011, 12:12:48 PM
Hey Lou, the ID+ models look fantastic.  Thought you would be interested to see this photo posted yesterday on Comet Models group of Bill Hannan's ID+ models that he built as a teen in Missoula, Montana during WW2.  The figures look like Skybird models but I don't think they were sold in USA so they may be of another origin.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on April 05, 2011, 01:52:08 PM
Thank you mark. It reminder of a different era, and that somethings are everlasting. What is the Comet web site address?

Lou
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: Balsabasher on April 05, 2011, 08:17:20 PM
Excellent find and it looks as if someone really had some fun with those models,it is difficult to see the figures but the poses on some do look like Skybirds ?
Barry.
Title: Re: WWII ID Models +
Post by: lastvautour on April 20, 2011, 02:58:13 PM
Originally posted by Garet.
 
Bill Hannan is well-known for his flying peanut (13 inch wingspan) and pistachio (8" wingspan) scale balsa and tissue models, and numerous books on the subject.  I have several of his books in my collection.

Garet