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Title: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on December 07, 2008, 11:03:22 PM
My nomination for a 2009 cookup is the century jet series.  I plan on building an F-102 Delta Dagger.  My father started out in radar in the USAF and remembers scrambling F-102s many times.  Any takers?

Ken Pugh
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on December 08, 2008, 03:23:04 PM
I am in. I should have read all post before writting my last comments to the general comment section.
As previously stated, I will do the series starting with the F-104 because I already made one in the nineties and this is my chance to sort out some issues I had making it. At 20 inches long, it will make a fine display model. I have plastic 1/144, 1/72 and 1/48 scale versions but look forward to making a solid. My next one will probably be the F-101B which may the the hardest of the series, but I have 14 years experience working on the J-57 engines that powered her.

So now, where are the other participants?
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: R.F.Bennett on December 08, 2008, 03:31:45 PM
A cook-up has been nominated and approved (It only takes two builders) and they never end. Please define "Century Jet" for those who do not know the term.
Let the chips fly Gents  ;D
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on December 08, 2008, 04:03:47 PM
The century series of aircraft comprise of the
North American F-100 Super Sabre
McDonnell F-101 Voodoo
Convair F-102 Delta Dagger
Lockheed F-104 Starfighter
Republic F-105 Thunderchief
Convair F-106 Delta Dart

Each can be found on www.wikipedia.com and a million other places on line. Decent drawings are available on line for all of them.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on December 17, 2008, 08:58:25 PM
Hi Lou,

Since you also would like to do the Delta Dagger, I think I will do the F-106 Delta Dart first.  I have the Detail & Scale book on that plane, as well as the F-105, F-101 and F-100.  I like the Delta Dart the most and can't decide what colors to do the Dagger.  I plan to do all of them, with doing several of the models of the Voodoo.

Ken Pugh
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on December 17, 2008, 11:39:24 PM
I was talking to my Dad today and asked about the color of the F-102 and F-106.  The pictures show it as a bluish gray.  He said it had no blue in it at all on the F-102 but it was a gloss, about the sheen of metal.  He never saw an F-106.  He said it was similar to the light grays the Navy used in those days.

Ken Pugh
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on December 18, 2008, 01:32:39 AM
Most F-102s and F-106s were "aircraft gray" which is slightly different from other grays around at the time. This can be purchased premixed through Model Master Paints. I have a couple of bottles in my shop and I will get the number for you. I have the F-106 "In Action" booklet.  I was choosing the F-102 because I wanted to compare notes with you. I will go back to my first choice which was the F-104G. The F-104 and F-101B were used in Canada and I worked on the Voodoo for a total of 14 years. I saw the F-102, F-105 and the F-106 during my career with the F-101. I have yet to see a real F-100. I need to clear some build space on my bench. I have the Kingfisher nearly done, so that is where I will build the F-104.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on December 18, 2008, 01:33:40 AM
Forgot to ask - what scale are you doing your Century Series Jets.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on December 18, 2008, 04:11:56 AM
Aircraft Gray or ADC Gray is FS 16473 and depending on which site you visit, there are some differences. If memory serves me well, the colour offered by http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_fs.htm  is correct. Scroll down to the FS number you want and the various manufacturers are listed with their numbers.


Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on December 18, 2008, 04:00:41 PM
Lou,

I will be working in 1/72.  That is my scale of choice for cranking out models, which I would like to do in order to get my skill sets and efficiency up to speed.

The F-102 is not well represented in my scale resources.  I only have one set of drawings I found on the internet and am not pleased with them.  I would like to get some better information so it would be better to let that one sit for a while.  Whatever I find I will share.  I guess this cookup topic is as good as any other location for details about this jet.

I do know that some info on the F-102 is a little overblown.  She was eventually relatively fast, but she had extremely short legs and was only effective as an interceptor when based densely throughout a region.  My father remembers scrambling some from Seymour Johnson to intercept a T-33 flying subsonic towards Wilmington, NC.  By the time they caught it near Wilmington, they were already needing to return to base due to lack of fuel.  Looking at a map, that is not much of an effective interception range for a subsonic target, especially since it could not effectively engage the target at intercept.

I have the Squadron booklet on the F-104 if you need any of the small amount of info found there.  I remember seeing one of them parked outside a school building at Keesler AFB in Mississippi when my father was based there.  That thing is a tiny little hot rod.  I got to see the Thunderbirds in F-100s.  What a show!  Those guys were crazy and that jet seemed to bring out the kid in a fighter pilot.

Hopefully we can build up some useful info on all the Century jets that can be stored here and be a useful resource for modelers to come.

Ken Pugh
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: R.F.Bennett on December 18, 2008, 08:23:20 PM
F 102A
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1592 (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1592)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1593 (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1593)

Republic F105B Thunderchief
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1598 (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1598)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1599 (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-1599)

Big files From Marsh.  :o
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on December 19, 2008, 01:56:57 AM
I will build in 1/32 scale but have 1/144 type detail only. That is the way I make all my models.

F-104 drawings have been printed, but came out to small. I need a fuselage lenght of 52.18cm.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on December 19, 2008, 04:47:55 PM
This site has some great pics.  I found some nice detail shots of several of the Century jets.

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/

Click on the Walkarounds tab and under Jet Walkarounds you will find many selection with some good detail shots.

Ken Pugh
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on December 20, 2008, 05:05:12 PM
I frequently visit that site myself for plastic and wood related subjects.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on March 15, 2009, 08:24:23 PM
Drawing have been printed and fuselage block selected. More to come.

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSCF5539.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-2568

The fuselage will be 52 cm long, the biggest aircraft in quite a while.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on March 18, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
The wings have been cut and the fuselage block selected. Sanding and shaping should begin by month's end.

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/thumb_DSCF5562.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-2570

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on March 30, 2009, 02:20:05 PM
Progress is average for a project this size, namely slow!! I have cut the fuselage and wing blocks. The main wing is a one piece block shape with the down sloping shape built in and the fuselage is partially block shaped. More when I take the camera downstairs again.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSCF5639.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-2608

Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on April 04, 2009, 06:56:40 PM
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSCF5649.JPG)
Block shaping is taking place. I have spend just under 3 hours on the Starfigther with most of that on various power saws.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on April 12, 2009, 11:09:02 AM
Progressing.

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSCF5687.JPG)
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Marcos Borges on May 11, 2009, 03:03:42 PM
Hi lastvautour
Nice job!
I would like to participe in the century jets Cook-up.
If it is possible, I would like to know if the F86 Sabre is OK.
I didnĀ“t understand exactly the meaning of "century jet".
Regards,
Marcos.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Marcos Borges on May 11, 2009, 03:10:39 PM
Sorry guys.
I just learned now about the Century jets.
So if it is possible I would like to join with the North American F-100 Super Sabre
Marcos.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on May 11, 2009, 04:10:32 PM
You are most welcomed to join with the F-100. I have placed my F-104 on hold to concentrate on finishing my Hudson Bomber. It has been in the works for over two years now. It is about time I completed it.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Marcos Borges on May 11, 2009, 07:04:42 PM
Thank you lastvautour
I will start the search for references, a good set of 3 view drawings and will open an album in the Solid Models Gallery.
Regards,
Marcos.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Oceaneer99 on May 13, 2009, 05:33:30 PM
I just got a book on interlibrary loan that has some concept drawings of Century jets that were never built.  I'm still going through it, but will post an update if there is anything useful.

Garet
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on May 14, 2009, 01:19:22 PM
Please do garet. There were some nice designs that never made it beyond the drawing baord stage.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on May 29, 2009, 12:19:15 AM
Does anyone have plans for a McDonnell Voodoo F101 or know where they may be viewed?

Cliff.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on May 29, 2009, 02:02:41 PM
Here's a couple, Cliff.  This Russian site has lots of drawings.

Ken Pugh

http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/f101.html (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/f101.html)

http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/f101ds.html (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/f101ds.html)
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on June 01, 2009, 05:26:01 PM
Thanks Ken. Printed it out AOK. ie after a few false starts and a lot of help. I was looking at an F101 that was part of our local aviation museum and thought that I could take some photos for decals and might - sometime in the very distant future - try a solid F101 if I could get a plan.

Cliff.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on June 01, 2009, 06:09:11 PM
Good Luck Cliff. The "101" may very well be my next century bird. In 1/32 scale it should be pretty massive. I have 14 years experience on her as a fitter. Man that airplane was dirty to work on.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on June 02, 2009, 04:13:40 PM
Well Lou, I took a few digital shots of the F101 that's parked out in front of the Western Canada Aviation Museum and initially thought that I could run off a model of this pdq. It would be  easy and would be an opportunity to practise airbrushing - only one colour, basically. Silver. Well, as you know better than most, it's not silver but grey. It's also not easy but complicated - especially the underside.  Also, the CAF version is not the same as the single seat version that I've got the 3views for. So for now it's "back to the drawing board", perhaps literally.  Finally, this a/c presents a problem if one decides to mould a canopy. There's just too much presented in the form of ejector seats and instruments to realistically replicate.

In passing, hope Ray and Garet manage to come up with a solution to the problem of keeping the group running. It's a very good effort in  the broadest sense. Perhaps if they can slow down and only do the best they can, parcelling out with detailed instructions as to what is required, to others that may be able to help, all will be AOK.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on June 02, 2009, 08:24:33 PM
Cliff, I sent the CF-101B drawings directly to your email address. Let me know if you new some help. This will be my next model , maybe, perhaps, later or so.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on June 02, 2009, 10:59:43 PM
Thanks Lou. Got the plans OK. Just printed them out at the library. Man, that is some size. In 1/84th scale, which is what my F86 was done in, this bird will be about 9.5 inches in length!

It will be a while yet.
Cliff
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on June 03, 2009, 10:02:57 AM
Just picture what my 1/32 scale version will be.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on June 04, 2009, 08:20:54 PM
F-104 update.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSCF6093.JPG)(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSCF6099.JPG)
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on June 05, 2009, 12:56:40 PM
She looks great, Lou.  That's one thing about the Century jets, they all have beautiful lines.

Ken Pugh
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on June 05, 2009, 01:05:12 PM
The Century Series were indeed pleasing to the eyes. It is hard to choice a favorite, but most time I lean towards the F-100 followed closely by the F-104. Off course having work 14 years on the 101 has a tendency to pull me in that direction at time. My next Century Series bird will be the Voodoo, however that is another story/project. looking at all of theme, I would place the F-100 at the easy end of the scale with the F-101 at the hard end as far as carving goes.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: dave_t on June 05, 2009, 01:41:36 PM
Is anyone planning on doing the F-107A?  I'll try starting a small one.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on June 05, 2009, 05:30:21 PM
Help yourself Dave. What scale? Have you seen the drawings on the North American F-108 Rapier or the Bell F-109? Each is unique in its own right. I may try the F-108 in 1/144 scale as a wek end project.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on June 13, 2009, 02:19:44 AM
Have you any other EGG plane models?

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: dave_t on June 14, 2009, 04:04:24 PM
I just googled "egg models" and didn't realize there were such things out there. My F-107 doesn't exactly qualify, but it's close to an egg shape.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Oceaneer99 on June 17, 2009, 06:13:48 AM
The book "American Secret Projects: Fighters and Interceptors 1945-1978" by Tony Butler, has a list of early Century-series prototypes:

NAA YF-100A Super Sabre (flown)
McDonnell F-101A Voodoo (flown)
Northrop N-81 "Advanced F-89"
McDonnell F-101B Voodoo (flown)

and a series of "1954 Interceptors"

Chance Vought V-371
Douglas Model 1245
Lockheed L-205
Convair YF-102 (flown)
Convair F-102A Delta Dagger (flown)
Republic XF-103 (1957 research aircraft)

There are basic 3-views of the following:

Northrop N-81
Chance Vought V-371
Douglas Model 1245
Lockheed L-205
North American Fighter
Republic AP-57 (early XF-103 study)



Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: dave_t on June 18, 2009, 12:58:47 AM
If you were building a model from a basic "project" drawing that lacked details, I suppose you could add features based on equipment found on actual fighter-jets from the same period. Some of the prototype models I've seen look a little too sleek.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on June 29, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
I'm in the Century Jets Cook-Up with my contribution: A CF101B Voodoo. Plans courtesy of Lou.

To date:(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_b.jpg)

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_a.jpg)

Shown is most of the parts cut in top and side view. The wing has been partly carved. Materials are: fin and stabilizer in basewood the remainder in balsawood. The balsa is, to my thinking, too soft but only using Xacto knives it works best. Must be compensated by using lots of wood filler. Scale: 1/84. The drop tanks are also in basswood

Cliff.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: dave_t on June 29, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
Did you turn the drop tanks on a lathe or carve them? I like how you carved the wing and intake from one piece.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on June 30, 2009, 01:03:56 AM
So far so good. I was wondering how you might break up the pieces  for assembly. I won't get to my Voodoo for quite a while. I keep getting side tracked. Nice work. I await the completion.

lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on June 30, 2009, 04:09:12 PM
Hi Dave,

I carved the drop tanks out of basswood. I plan to somehow place a couple of pins into them so that they may be attached after painting separately.

cliff
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on June 30, 2009, 04:13:39 PM
Hi Lou,

Yes it's quite a problem deciding on how to approach carving this model. It is indeed a different aircraft. I've been fortunate enough to be able to view two that are at Winnipeg's airport.

Cliff.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on July 02, 2009, 10:38:14 PM
Progress is slow these days. The wings have been faired into the forward intake trunks and rough fillets are attached to the trailing edge. Sanding continues now and then. Anticipate roll out in October.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSCF6578.JPG)
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on July 06, 2009, 03:56:36 PM
Hi Lou,

I think I should address this to you as you've mentioned that you used to work on the CF101B. It still will be a while until I 'm at the painting stage on my CF101B but do you have a paint number to identify the proper grey colour on the a/c.

In passing, do you recall MacDonald Bros @ WG that used to do the maintenance and overhall on the 101 and the Bissett Test Area NE of WG? It was in that area that I actually had a C47 and a 101 conflicting about three times - the C47, as I recall, was flight planned to 23 thousand!!! About forty years separated those two designs! It was a long time ago now - about 1974 - but that's basically what happened.

Cliff
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on July 06, 2009, 05:44:34 PM
Cliff, Model Master Paints (Testor) has a colour called Voodoo Grey. The earlier versions were either gloss or matt silver and before that natural metal.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on July 06, 2009, 11:34:47 PM
Thanks Lou, that's what I was looking for. I expect that if the model shops around here don't have it in stock then they'll have to order it - which explains the reason for my early enquiry.

Cliff.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on July 07, 2009, 11:22:18 AM
It was a standard colour on the MM Paint display at my toy store. I am sure that the Argus Shop on Portage Ave would have it.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on July 07, 2009, 05:57:44 PM
Thanks again Lou. I got the paint, from Tiger Hobbies. By the way the Argus shop has been closed for about two years. Hope to post a progress report soon ie before painting and decals.

Cliff
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: John Bell on July 07, 2009, 11:33:49 PM
Here's my entry for the Century series cook up,... The McDonnell F-110. However I have been politely informed that this duck won't fly, but...it would have about three decades ago!

The 3/16 scale model is completely scratch built, mostly from basswood. I built it for my "S scale" airforce. S scale is a model railroad scale. I like trains too. I'll bet a lot of folks on Solid Model memories like trains also.

John Bell
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on July 07, 2009, 11:44:18 PM
Nice Phantom/Specter John. Give us a few words on the details of its construction when you find time.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: R.F.Bennett on July 08, 2009, 02:48:52 AM
From what I've read the McDonnell F-110 Spectre/F-4C Phantom II fits the bill. As well as this build. Thanks John, great build.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Oceaneer99 on July 08, 2009, 04:49:12 PM
Nice work, John.  I remember those double-barreled dog whistles (at least the F-4 version) flying over my house in the early 1980s.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on July 08, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
That is a real nice model, John. Especially the paint job and especially the painting of the canopy. And how did you do the wheels? Again, superb.

Cliff.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: John Bell on July 08, 2009, 11:24:45 PM
The F-4E model is fairly straight forward. I built the fuselage in six pieces: center section, engine bay sides, intakes, and the portion under the tail. Drop tanks, and wheels were turned on a small wood lathe, while the struts were made from styrene rod. Exhaust is from styrene tube. I did the shading on the canopy by spraying a fuzzy black line on some blank decal paper. Sealed that, and cut to fit. Piece of cake. Decals are from somewhere, I've got so much of that stuff, collected over the years. The scale, 3/16, is very ideal. It is a great scale for building larger models, like my B-17G. One of the problems with multi engine aircraft is getting the engine nacelles on at the correct angles. I have devised an absolutely fool proof method of doing this, and will describe it in another topic.

All take care,

John Bell
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on July 27, 2009, 08:19:41 PM
A progress report on my Century Jets contribution: a CF101B.

To date I've in the main finished construction and will try my hand at painting.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_d1.jpg)

http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_d1.jpg (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_d1.jpg)

Other views:
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_h.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_h.jpg (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_h.jpg)   

]
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_g.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_g.jpg (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_g.jpg)

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_e.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_e.jpg (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_e.jpg)

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_f.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_f.jpg (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_CF101_-_f.jpg)

Cliff
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: R.F.Bennett on July 27, 2009, 08:35:12 PM
WOW DUDE!  :o   WOW!  :P
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: dave_t on July 27, 2009, 09:41:24 PM
All three century-jet projects are looking fantastic so far. One of the better cook-ups.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on July 28, 2009, 11:08:19 AM
Cliff, you nailed it. What a fantatsic build.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on July 28, 2009, 04:55:28 PM
Thanks Lou,

As you worked on these for such a long time, as I recall you saying, I appreciate your assessment. (But, regretably, I put the wrong URL address on the photos. However they're all in the Gallery section.) Still a bit of possible construction before - good grief - airbrushing. Having a real problem choosing a sanding sealer. What I have been using seems to have suddenly become incompatible with the body/wood filler that I've been using.

Cliff.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Oceaneer99 on July 28, 2009, 05:13:21 PM
Cliff,

Amazing work!  I remember being challenged by a plastic version of that plane once!

Garet
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: dave_t on July 29, 2009, 05:57:20 PM
Here's my offering for the cook-up. A cartoon version of the North American F-107A in no particular scale-
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/f107a2.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/f107a2.jpg (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/f107a2.jpg)
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/f107a3.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/f107a3.jpg (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/f107a3.jpg)
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on July 30, 2009, 01:25:35 PM
Look pretty fine. Now all you need is a cartoon pilot.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: dave_t on August 14, 2009, 07:21:59 PM
Working out how to airbrush Tamiya "Flat Aluminum" color. I'm not sure of the ratio of paint to thinner for metallic colors. My first attempt seems too thick.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/F-100-2.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/F-100-2.jpg (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/F-100-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on August 14, 2009, 11:07:25 PM
It is hard to tell from this photo. A coat of clear gloss before silver helps me get a smoother finish. What effect are you trying to get. A shinny finish is best with testor's chrome spray can(preceeded by clear gloss coat). If a dull finish is your aim, a coat of satin or dulecote over the silver will do nicely. Regardless of the finish, I think your cartoon planes are fantatstic. I once did Revell's Maj Riff-Raff's Spitfire. It is in keeping with your theme.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on August 14, 2009, 11:15:42 PM
Where did you get your drawings for your marvelous little crafts.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on August 15, 2009, 01:48:25 PM
It's been a very long time since I used Tamiya aluminum but I seem to remember it is thick and has a lot of surface tension.  I am assuming you are using Tamiya thinner.  It seems it is critical to use Tamiya products together and per the instructions.  The main goal, especially with metallics, is smooth.  The base is critical.  It looks like your base model is really good and smooth.  I also assume by thick you mean the surface is kind of bumpy, at least that is what I can see from your pic in the gallery.  I find this happens a lot with acrylics.

My advice is let this thoroughly dry then lightly wet sand it.  I have found I can get very smooth brush painted acrylic finishes by getting a nice layer of paint then wet sand.  Do this as many times as needed to get a nice smooth finish with complete covereage.  Then the key is clear coating.  If you use Future, it is like lacquer in that it interacts with the previous layer.  Otherwise, wet sand your clear coats with very fine sandpaper then make your final coat a matt or satin if desired.  Get the color evenly applied then fix the surface of the paint with clear coating.

Here's some good skinny on Future:
http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html (http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html)

Here's a great site on airbrushing.  His forum has lots of good stuff and the videos are good.  Dig around.  His video on clear coating is very good and gives you the things you need to keep in mind.  He has a good formula for a reducer to use with acrylics, but I would not recommend it for Tamiya, unless you just want to experiment.
http://airbrushtricks.com/start/ (http://airbrushtricks.com/start/)

Ken Pugh
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: dave_t on August 15, 2009, 02:18:11 PM
Thanks for the tips and links. I'll work on the problem this weekend. By thick, I meant that it created a somewhat pebbly surface, not smooth. After the paint dried, I tried burnishing it with a piece of bond paper and that took off the "loose" paint. It looks a lot better now.

Lou, I modified an F-100 drawing(See attached image). The weird part is, after carving this, it looks more right to me than the real F-100 for some reason.

I didn't know about the Spitfire until you mentioned it-
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7201-7300/gal7292-Spitfire-Martin/00.shtm (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7201-7300/gal7292-Spitfire-Martin/00.shtm)
http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_1738.shtml (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_1738.shtml)



Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on August 15, 2009, 03:34:04 PM
I managed to find a carricature F-101, F-102 and F-104 but none look as good as your F-100 and F-107.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: R.F.Bennett on August 16, 2009, 12:36:32 AM
I smell something Cooking. . .   ::)   :P
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on August 21, 2009, 12:28:14 AM
The Starfighter requires a paint scheme. I am torn between a 1978 dark green/white tail European scheme or the chrome/white/red homeside colours of the RCAF. Regardless, cannon armour, belly strake have been added and she is ready for the paint shop.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/thumb_DSCF7029.JPG)

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on August 26, 2009, 12:55:57 AM
In support of Dave's Cartoon entries, here is my attempt at a caricature of the Century Series Convair F-102 Delta Dagger in nominal 1/72 scale.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/thumb_DSCF7134.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on September 22, 2009, 01:21:42 PM
The Canadair built F-104 in 1/32 scale was a very satisfying project. The only difficulty was encountered in shaping the intake trunk/fuselage from one solid piece of wood. Decals went on well except for folding the tail marking and having to print a second one. Expended time amounted to approx 30 hours most of which was sanding.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/thumb_CF-104_1979.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=1

The next Century Series project is still up in the air. An Air-Toon F-101B gave me some good ideas on parts breakdown. More to come!!

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on September 23, 2009, 12:52:13 PM
Well done, Lou.

If I can get up the nerve to try this home decal thing there will be a Dagger flying along.

Ken Pugh
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on September 23, 2009, 04:16:48 PM
Thank you Ken. Deacls are a B---- sometimes but well worth the effort.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Ken Pugh on December 16, 2009, 08:45:26 PM
F-102 Delta Dagger 1/72 scale

Finished 15 Dec 2009

Ken Pugh

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/normal_dagger019.JPG)

http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3517 (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3517)
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on December 17, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
Well worth the wait Ken. Superb finish. A fine candidate for model of the year.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: cliff strachan on July 20, 2010, 07:23:18 PM
My contribution to the Century Jets Cookup:

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10010/normal_CF101_Voodoo_-_one~1.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4498 (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4498)


(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10010/normal_CF101_Voodoo_-_three~1.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4500 (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4500)

(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10010/normal_CF101_Voodoo_-_four~1.jpg)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4501 (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4501)

The three photos are intended to show a couple of views of the model. It's intended to try to replicate a Canadian Forces CF101 Voodoo enroute, doing some practise manouvers at Thunder Bay and departing. It's1/84 scale. All basa construction. Decals were purchased locally.

Cliff
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on July 20, 2010, 07:36:52 PM
Thanks for posting to the Group Build Cliff.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on April 30, 2011, 07:03:22 PM
This post has been inactive for a while. My current Century Series project takes me to the F-100 in 1/144 scale. Decals are printed, however I see I will need some adjustments to the wing "USAF" as they are quite a bit smaller than required. I placed them under a 500 watt work light to speed up the drying. If you do this do not walk away. 10 minutes is all that is needed and the paper gets quite hot.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF4598.JPG)

The undercarriage will be made up of "Evergreen" plastic spruce, rods and tubes. The 1/48 scale Argus was on the bench, hence providing a good place to pose the gear.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF4586.JPG)

The primary colour for the Hun is metal with a bright green band around the intake and the vertical fin. The canopy paint is the first experimentation with this new frog tape. It worked well for the canopy and for the green bands. I did not photograph the green bands because the acrylic paint did not adhere fully to the silver finish and on removing the tape, it peels some of it. The tape appears to work as advertised and time will tell. Until further testing, I cautiously endorse this product.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF4594.JPG)
http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=5706
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on May 01, 2011, 12:56:41 PM
The "Frog" tape worked very well with the chrome finish, however the decals and paint are not compatible and do not adhere well. Since this photo was taken, the wings have been sanded and Testor Aluminum/Steel has been applied.

Lou

Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on May 04, 2011, 12:16:25 AM
Decal problems are solved with a repainting of some of the surfaces and using Future as a coating before applying them.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF4625.JPG)
Many confused the F-100C Super Sabre  and the CF-100 Canuck due to the designation.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF4633.JPG)
Scale versus size is depicted by the 1/48 scale Monogram kit and my 1/144 scale project.
(http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_DSCF4669.JPG)

It took slightly over 5 hours building time.

Lou

Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on February 13, 2015, 10:55:36 PM
An update on Century Series Jets starts with a completed 1/72 scale F-100D in French Air Force colours. Still on the bench are an F-101B, an F-102A and an F-104G. An F-105D and lastly an F-106A are in the wings.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on March 12, 2015, 12:11:18 AM
I will attempt to post multi picture like this one as the slowest aircraft reaches the next stage which will be contour carved.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on March 15, 2015, 10:35:50 PM
The Super Sabre and the Voodoo each had their problems and learning experience. Both are rewarding projects once done.

Lou

F-102A Painting exhaust area and forward fuselage.
F-104G Primed. Ventral fin and tip tanks carved and await primer.
F-105D Lower fuselage contoured.
F-106A Block cut.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on March 18, 2015, 10:16:44 PM
Half way there.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on March 29, 2015, 01:24:52 PM
The F-104 joins the group. The glue is drying on the F-105D wings and the F-106A has the fuselage rough carved. Perhaps the F-105D can be rolled out in approximately two weeks.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on April 01, 2015, 06:23:45 PM
The last of the Century Series jet has been sanded down to 150 grit.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on April 06, 2015, 07:07:31 PM
The F-106A has been primed.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on April 08, 2015, 11:33:51 AM
F-105D completed 8 Apr 2015.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on April 11, 2015, 07:01:42 PM
Completed the original six operational Century Series Jets.

Lou
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: Model Maker on April 12, 2015, 01:57:32 AM
Lou:

They look great. You certainly have the knack for creating, photographing and displaying your works of art. You set a very high target for us beginners to aspire to!!.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: buccfan on April 12, 2015, 09:14:13 AM
I agree with Ken 100% Lou, keep up the good work and inspiration to others. Regards Paul J.
Title: Re: Century jets cookup
Post by: lastvautour on April 12, 2015, 12:47:43 PM
Thank you Ken and Paul. I appreciate your comments.

Lou